PRE-LITIGATION ( SUING FOR FEES ) - FACTS NOT OPINIONS
1. In February 2001
we were employed by Mr & Mrs R... (we can't state their name, as in his
internet posting Mr R.... hid behind the
cloak of anonymity. Also, data protection laws that control UK business do not allow us to divulge his name. We believe he does
this because if people googled his own name, they might find out what type of
person he really is). Mr & Mrs R...
employed my firm to provide architectural services for a two storey side
extension to their family home.
A recent update on this ex-client: For some reason, he recently decided (on 18th June 2016) to leave a negative review on my google business page. Therefore, you can now see his real name and what he looks like.
2. A few days after
my initial meeting with Mr & Mrs R.... I sent a quotation by post for my
architectural services to Mr & Mrs R.... on 14th February 2001. Once the
quotation was signed by both parties, it became a contract for me to provide
architectural services to Mr & Mrs R.... the clients.
3. Mr & Mrs
R... signed the (quotation) contract on
21st February 2001 and Mrs R...
delivered it by hand to our offices.
I remember this distinctly, as I thought she might have been a new
parent that lost her way, as her child in buggy might be starting Under Fives Nursery on the ground
floor.
4. We then undertook
a measured survey of the existing property on 21st March 2001, which is the
first stage in any building project. It
helps us determine the best way to provide a new extension on the
property. Furthermore the local
authority will require elevations and plans of the existing building in order
to determine the proposed extension once it enters the planning process.
5. We then prepared
the existing plans and sent them with a letter on 27th March 2001 to the
clients, explaining that we will proceed with the proposals "as soon as
possible". We also sent them an
invoice for the survey work. They paid
for the survey work within a week of receiving it.
6. We had prepared
the sketch proposals and a programme, and sent them with a letter to the
clients on 3rd April 2001.
7. On 5th April 2001,
we received a telephone call from Mr R.... informing us that he required us to
"hold fire on the schemes" because he had problems with his
employment. The sketch proposals had
already been sent by post and we advised Mr R... of this at the time. Mr R... did not seem surprised that he would
be receiving the drawings, however following his telephone call, we had agreed
to wait for Mr R... prior to invoicing him for the proposals done to date. It
should also be noted that we have never received a written confirmation for
postponing the project, as was required in the signed contract. i.e. if he felt he
needed to instruct us to continue with the work, he would not have needed to
phone us to stop the work and District
Judge Brett picked up on this.
8. On 20th June 2001,
we telephoned Mr R.... to see if his employment situation had improved. He
stated that he was "in dire straits".
As a result of his response, we decided to wait a further six months
prior to contacting him again (this was noted on the record of telephone call).
9. On 6th March 2002,
we sent a letter to Mr R... requesting an update on his situation, prior to
archiving the project. As you note, it
had been almost a year since we were asked to suspend the project. Mr & Mrs R... never responded to this
letter.
10. On 18th June 2002, we telephoned Mr R... requesting an
update. He stated that he was still looking for work.
11. On 10th September 2003, we decided to invoice Mr &
Mrs R... for only 2/3rds of the work that we had already undertaken. We sent a letter explaining that we had
postponed the invoice as a result of Mr R...’s circumstances. This was two years and five months after we
were asked to postpone the project. The
invoice was for only £ 924.22 + VAT (£1085.96), which included three sketch
proposals shown over 24No. A3 sheets of drawings. Mr & Mrs R... never responded to this
letter. We were only charging for 65% of
the fees for that stage as we felt that was a reasonable amount to charge at
the time.
12. On 21st October 2003, we telephoned Mr & Mrs R...
requesting payment of the invoice. Mrs
R... tried to evade the telephone call claiming that they had paid. She was
reminded that it was only for the survey work that they paid and that they were
still liable for the payment of the invoice for the sketch proposals. Mr R... took over the phone call and claimed
that the sketch proposals were sent after he instructed us to stop. We stated that this was not the case and he
had no intention of paying. He stated
that if we did not like it we can take him to court. We stated that we will undertake our normal
procedures until the fee is paid. Mr R... stated "see you in court
then".
LITIGATION PROCESS - Mr & Mrs R... are sued for unpaid
fees
13. On 24th October 2003, we sent Mr & Mrs R... a letter
requesting payment and as a warning of debt recovery procedures.
14. On 7th November 2003, we received a letter dated 4th
November, from Mr & Mrs R... basically claiming that the sketch proposals
were sent after he instructed us to stop.
Mr R... also asked us to acknowledge that no payment is due.
15. On 13th November 2003, we sent Mr & Mrs R... a
letter acknowledging receipt of their letter and requesting payment as final
warning prior to litigation and suing for unpaid fees through the civil court
process. We also stated that we will be
claiming interest on the debt as we are entitled to do so under the signed
contract and that we require payment within 7 days prior to civil proceedings,
without any further notice. We received no reply or payment of the fees.
16. On 1st December 2003, we issued a claim to Bromley
County Court for unpaid fees against Mr & Mrs R...
COURT CASE - Mr & Mrs R... are sued for unpaid fees
17. On 19th January 2004, the court informed us that Mr
& Mrs R... filed a defence to the claim.
Mr & Mrs R... basic counter argument was that the sketch proposals
were done after Mr R... had telephoned our office to stop. Mr R... also made other
allegations, that we lied, that we forced him to sign the contract and that we
had a verbal agreement not to proceed with the proposals until he gave the go
ahead.
18. On 2nd February 2004, we sent the court our refutation
of Mr & Mrs R’s... defence. We
principally made reference to the signed contract and that we did not force Mr
& Mrs R… to sign the contract. It was clear that Mr & Mrs R... were
prepared to purger themselves as as a way of getting out of paying their debt.
19. On 9th September 2004, we went to Bromley County Court
under claim number: BR306970.
20. The District Judge Brett took evidence from both sides.
Mr R... presented his case in a very animated way, trying to intimidate and
goad us. The judge stopped Mr R...’s antics and tried to appease, with what he
thought would calm Mr R... down and prevent him from purgering himself in
Court. In his efforts, the judge stated that he can see that Mr R... tries to
be an honourable man and that he has a full grasp of the English language.
21. The Judge tried to assure Mr R.... that with so many
drawings produced, there was no way abp Arhcitects could have produced them in
a matter of a few hours, as Mr R... was claiming that they were produced
following his phone call.
22. District Judge Brett also assured Mr R... that he could
have easily received the package of drawings a couple of days later with the
postmark the day after they were posted.
The Judge confirmed that he had in previous cases visited the post
office facilities to see how postage is handled and stated that he (the Judge)
himself had witnessed the delays. The
Judge therefore concluded on this point that the work was done prior to the
telephone call from Mr R... to stop the works.
23. The Judge was
also amazed that abp Architects waited "many many many many" months
before we had even prepared an invoice for unpaid work. The Judge commended abp
Architects on their compassion in this area.
24. District Judge
Brett again looked at the signed contract and advised Mr R... that he could see
that the contract had referred to a meeting prior to the contract being
prepared. The Judge therefore concluded
that Mr R... being an intelligent man would have carefully read the contract
prior to signing and was therefore on his own when he signed the contract and
therefore under no duress, before he returned it to abp Architects.
25. The Judge also
stated that it is clear in the contract that abp Architects would proceed with
all stages as stated and would only stop when instructed to do so. Therefore, Mr R.... should have been aware
that this was the case and that when the measured survey stage was delivered to
him, abp Architects would continue with the design stage. This was not withstanding the fact that in
the letter accompanying the measured survey drawings, abp Architects clearly
stated that they would proceed with the design stage. This letter had been sent at least two weeks
prior to the telephone call from Mr R... instructing abp Architects to
"put the schemes on hold".
Hence logic could be seen that Mr R... was aware that abp architects
were in the process of producing the "schemes" by the mere fact that
he had referred to them.
JUDGEMENT IN OUR FAVOUR -
Mr & Mrs R... had to pay our unpaid fees.
26. District Judge
Brett in his summing up concluded that Mr & Mrs R... were liable for the
fees and costs. Mr & Mrs R.... and
abp Architects had a contract and abp Architects had honoured their side of
providing architectural services and drawings and it was therefore only right
that abp Architects had their fees paid.
27. The Judge stated that there was no evidence of any
verbal agreement that Mr & Mrs R.... were trying to purport. As such a
written and signed contract stands in law.
( After all what is the point of having a signed agreement, to then try
and rely on a verbal discussion,
assuming one had happened in the first instance? )
28. Mr R... asked how he could appeal Judge Brett's verdict. District Judge Brett said you need to ask him. Mr R... asked the judge if he can appeal. District Judge Brett, gave an emphatic... "NO".
28. Mr R... asked how he could appeal Judge Brett's verdict. District Judge Brett said you need to ask him. Mr R... asked the judge if he can appeal. District Judge Brett, gave an emphatic... "NO".
POST LITIGATION - Mr R... and his unjustified internet postings
29. abp Architects discovered
a few years after the court case that Mr R.... had anonymously posted untruths
on the internet about our firm and the court case.
30. abp architects discovered through typing Mr R….’s name
that he is a known internet troll and we have noted his activities with others
and other companies out there on the internet.
31. abp Architects
contacted the police, as advised by a solicitor. The local police were initially interested in
the case and spent many hours taking evidence about the defamatory postings on
the internet. However, it was the Crown Prosecution Service ( CPS)
that decided not to take any further action, as they stated that it was a civil
matter against a business not a criminal matter against a person.
32. abp Architects
also took further advice from other legal firms and they stated that there is a
good case against Mr R... but we would spent a lot of money and time taking Mr
& Mrs R... to court and then for him/them to plead poverty.
33. The above is the
truth in response to the untruths, smears and allegations Mr R... is posting
about abp Chartered Architects, Bernard Humphrey-Gaskin & Maria
Humphrey-Gaskin.
34. You can see what our clients really think of us :
https://www.abpriba.co.uk/Testimonials-bernard-humphrey-gaskin-abp_architect.html
34. You can see what our clients really think of us :
https://www.abpriba.co.uk/Testimonials-bernard-humphrey-gaskin-abp_architect.html